After receiving the rifle I cleaned the barrel, switched out the scope for one off a 22 rifle I have, and purchased three types of pellets. He would shoot or hold his fire according to how he assessed the scene before him." Crosman's situational training program was so successful the FBI starting using it in 1960s. This powerhouse deserves a pair of nice iron sights and without a doubt a better scope. Air Arms, Air Venturi, Crosman, Diana, Seneca, and Weihrauch airguns. I dont know about the .22 version, though I presume it is the same for both calibers. To get a Nitro piston with the scope for $100 or less is like one of those super deals that you just can't let go by:-) this is an outstanding rifle for the buck. I am really enjoying shooting it. There are a few things to consider here but typically I would take a look at the below (in this order): You might see your target through the scope but if your barrel isnt in line with the scope then youre not going to hit it. Went back to use for a 2nd visit and scope is so far right it won't hit target. Shoot it more than anything else I have. Careers. Crosman Vigilante Problems 16,518 views Jan 30, 2016 55 Dislike Share Save TargetShooter145 911 subscribers Twitter: https://twitter.com/TargetShooter14 These are a few problems I have. At this price point. Now that I have a new Weapon and Magazine that all work together, I enjoy shooting this Pellet rifle. As they say, it's the shooter not the gun! But, the rear ring has 4 screws holding itto the dovetail, and has a stop screw too. Price was great. No, Im not talking about the singer who sang Crazy in the early 1990s, Im talking about your breech seal, silly. I get noticeably better groups using Wadcutter ammo so I will stick to that pellet shape. REASON: No magazine(clip), that functions. The main reason why an Air Rifle doesnt fire is typically caused by a mechanical related failure of the inner mechanism. I was very disappointed in this gun's performance. I recommend a sling for carrying. As the manufacturer, we provide Warranty Support only. The velocity has to be higher that reported even with lead pellets. I wasnt sure how this would be since I never owned one before. The barrel rifling looked really good, clean and shinny. Msg frequency may vary. Privacy Policy | You know the cheap crappy 4x15 scopes that come with many cheap multi-pumpers? IP Address: 159.203.63.113
Feb 15, 2005 #3. on my 22XX. Return any item in new, unopened condition along with its original packaging and any accessories that might have come with your product and receive a refund within 60 days of purchase. Purchased this rifle at Wal-Mart for around 100 dollars. Shot it today. I had to take the 2 small screws out that holds the knob on and carefully use a pair of needle nose pliers to free it up. This may also happen if you change your order during processing. That is a great story. Its quite when you fire the weapon, but the bad part is it is hard it does only shot one pellet and a pain the load quick, Reviewed in the United States on March 12, 2023. Good Luck. This gun is pretty heavy, but it has a good feel in my hands. loads bb fine. And the magazine loads firmly. My .22 Gamo Bone Collector Gen 2 is much smoother and has an enjoyable piston action. Yo! Good gun, Id recommend it. I did swap out the scope with a Center Point 4 by 16 by 50 though, also a Wal-Mart purchase for around 70 dollars. The gun is very heavy and is best used on the range with a cradle to steady it. Although the trigger is quite heavy it is predictable and the gun is accurate. Very accurate at 10 paces and beyond. Just what Ive read. Also bear in mind theres a break in period maybe 300-500 shots before you see good improvement sometimes if youre lucky no need break in shots and it may just start shooting good. Hello, I've recently been having issues with my new air gun, the Crosman DPMS SBR. The bottom front of the forearm is fairly sharp. Dovetail mounting rail. Get ready to go thru some pellets. If that gives me issues I am going to mount a green laser on the bottom of the barrel and use the scope to find the laser. Now, this could be two separate things or related to the same underlying issue. Very disappointing and waisted a great deal of time trying to sight it in. Shoots fast but not strait. The trigger is a bit creepy but has improved with use so I will keep it. Definitely the cheapest $430.00 Aus and is very enjoyable to shoot. Host / ISP: 159.203.63.113
I am looking at scopes but still have not decided on what to buy. JavaScript is disabled. Fun to shoot. These break barrel rifles need a light hold to help with accuracy, I recommend finding an airgun forum, or videos on proper shooting technique. Parts affected by wear include the barrel seals on spring-loaded target guns and overtightened end seals of power cylinders. I bought an IZH 38 for $7 as part of a lot of five "junkers." Crosman / Benjamin / Remington Air Rifles and Pistols are not refundable via Crosman Corporation. This gun is very loud with light/lead free pellets (all i use) and i like it. Our experts also offer exclusive 10-for-$10 Test and 20-for-$20 Service, I cant put a single sight on this without the kickbacks misaligning the sights. The magazine can hold almost any kind or size pellet, from wadcutters to Crosman Gold Flight Penetrators, and it has some punch to it as well, Get FREE shipping on qualifying orders! 0 J jkingrph Member Jan 21, 2021 976 412 Texas, United States May 21, 2021 #10 On my first back earlier in the year I had one cartridge stick. I will have to see if it is ok or just trash it and forget the whole air gun thing. So far it has performed perfectly. You need some muscle strength to cock it. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I also wish the turret knobs had a lock function once you got them adjusted to prevent them from being accidentally turned. The magazine could be a little better, but its nothing major; other than that, nothing else. It works smooth, latches crisply, and feels very solid with no discernable movement. You dont necessarily need to throw these old ones away, just use them for some fun plinking. $129.99. As I mentioned this is my first air gun and I was enjoying it (until it lost it started shooting all over the place). It's up to you to research and comply with the laws in your state, county, and city. I don't know how Crosman can stand behind this. I have the F4 version and I am simply amazed at how it shoots. I'm 66 with not verygood eyesdight, so have to use a scope anyway. disassembling. For the price I use the crossman super magnum 10.5 grain lead pellets, but any of the heavier pellets will fine. I had two Benjamin NP2s that were wildly inaccurate with all sorts of pellets. I was trying to give you 5 stars but made a mistake. You leave one slot open because when you cock the gun it advances the clip. View Shipping Times, It's important to know that due to state and local laws, there are certain restrictions for various products. Yo! Features: I love the NP aspect that gives me a quieter, smoother shooting break barrel! the magazine is too fragile. Crosman makes excellent products for what they are. I have a number of rifle scopes with sharp, clear views anf no color distortions. 100 Owner's Manual (1942-1951) 101 Owner's Manual (1925-1951) 102 Owner's Manual (1926-1951) 104 Owner's Manual (1942-1950) 107 / 108 Owner's Manual (1949) I LOVE that! Feb 6, 2019 83 0 Louisiana Feb 11, 2020 #1 I bought this break barrel crossman F4 last year at Walmart, gave $80 bucks for it. My Fire is laser accurate using Hatsan Vortex Supreme domed pellets at 8.34 grains. Create an online review and share your thoughts with other customers. I worried it wouldnt be powerful. My 1377 Probably don't hurt it. It is accurate with good pellets, but has a very loud piston. Msg & data rates may apply. This aint your Red Rider! I was able to get a pretty good zero by the end of the first day with an occasional straggler, using the Crosman Premier hollow points. Rifle scopes cannot take the jump. Both are wadcutters. I did this because as I pushed a pellet through the barrel, as suggested, I found it tight the first inch and then fairly easy to push from there on. With the current shot groups the gun is useless to me. I have the earlier version with a different front Barrel and this new version is a little quieter, so I guess yeah that Barrel that they have helps a little bit with the sound. ( HINT HINT CROSMAN) However, If you are so down and disgusted with Commie products then why the hell did you purchase this one? I received my gun and no scope.and was told over chat that pretty much pyramid wont do nothing about it.I would have to go through crosman.and everybody knows how long it takes any manufacture to do anything.so now Im Going to have to buy another scope until I can get ahold of crosman to get a scope.thanks pyramyd. The only redeeming factor is that even mid level ones are realatively cheap. You must log in or register to reply here. there are more expensive break barrels out there but why throw money away.. spend a little more on the scope and you'll have a rifle that will shoot circles around all the others. Easier break-barrel than other brands (such as hatsan) Have to order them via PyramydAir since none of the sporting goods or box stores around me carry anything but Crosman, Daisy, and Gamo ammo. Well, surprisingly perhaps, not a lot. I bought the bottom line crosman fire. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. I would fix the magazine. I wasnt sure how this would be since I never owned one before. Feels like a real rifle the balance is a little off, but I use shooting sticks and can shoot for hours. 2 these high power springer/np eat Scopes FOR SNACK.buy scope with good warranty and of course springer rated Cloudy, impossible to focus. Scope included, although not the best. The trigger sucks. Text JOIN to 91256 and get $10 Off Your Next $50+ Order. Free shipping may not be combined with a coupon unless stated otherwise. If so, its possible that the tips of them will stick out and cause a jam. Privacy Policy | The more I shoot it the poorer he accuracy is. I thought this was due to the scope that was included with the package, but after I removed the scope and mounted a bead on the front and a rear sight at the back I realized that it was the gun. The only rifle I have owned that might be better at poking nice holes in paper is an Anschutz 380 I once owned. I followed the various recommendations from the forum by doing the following. Maybe it's just my riflesh and something is wrong with it. Even if you get a defective gun you're instructed to go and deal with its manufacturer. (Which I did have to shim, but no biggie you get those ones in a while. are a problem. They shoot slower but they hit with authority. The plastic where you break seems a bit flimsy. We all have to start off somewhere and I dont know about you but I was all over the place at first. My F4 is a whole lot quieter with its gas piston. First this is an impressive looking air rifle for the price.Since this is my first break barrel I wanted the nitro piston, have at least 1000 fps or more and not be out of range as far as price goes.I am sure there are other air rifles you can choose from, and I have had this one for over two weeks. The Scope and mounts are easily mounted. There is no O-ring to distort. Love it!! Never able to determine if just the Mag was bad or Weapon also. Crosman knocks it out with this one and Pyramyd made it happen! Not all pellets are created equal and if the magazine will not turn easily, then don't attempt to use that pellet. A new scope will be entire cost of rifle. Could it be that they are a slightly different size (i.e. I shot it at exactly 45 ft. with three different pellets. that was a government drone bird.. my rifle shots hard ad sure to drop that bird. With these type of flimsy open sights, I have found the best & simplest method of keeping them in place once final adjustment is made is to just put a piece of clear scotch tape over the adjusting turret & whatever part of the rifle that allows the other end to stick to. Would be willing to pay more if it came with a better combo scope or just offer the gun by itself. I'm smiling:-) great deal, good product. PyramydAir.com uses cookies to ensure you get the best experience on our website. A lot of us just don't want to just hit the can but also to know where exactly and how powerful we hit it. No problem with the return and the new rifle is performing nicely. I have had difficulty getting difficulty getting extra magazines. For a little over $100 bucks, hard to go wrong, Iron sights - be nice to have the option, but not a deal breaker I will say for what I paid for a used HW30 , at 25 yards it is as accurate as any spring rifle I have owned. It can happen to any of us. Good open sights and/or a much better scope. January 18, 2020 20:08:36. 12-shot auto-loader works great!Good velocity for squirrels and fruit-eating birds! If you can fix the issue yourself (such as using a different browser, connecting through a different Internet provider, etc) please do so. This Crosman air rifle came in very cheap packaging. Youll need to do a bit of disassembling here but as youre reading this Im going to make the assumption that youre okay to do this and know a bit about what youre doing. The nitron power plant and suppressor makes this a very quiet rifle with lead pellets.The Skelton plastic stock makes the gun light and easy to handle. but you may experience an additional 1-2 day delay before your order ships. Barrel looked a little bent and wasnt seated well with its receiver (?). Gun is very light weight. for your sharing. The rifle is light even with a scope. The scope, in my opinion I good enough- if you do not like it you can always switch it out for one of your own choice. Nice gun, but I can't understand why you would stock commie products. Play with different pellets until you find the right one. This Crosman has more of a metallic ping sound when it fires. Barring the unlikely misfortune of receiving a "dud" rifle, we think the Nitro Venom is an outstanding, low-cost deal in the wonderful worlds of gas rams. I'm about a month into ownership and it's been only using one CO2 Cartridge and leaves the . Crosman Fire Nitro Piston Features. Text JOIN to 91256 and get $10 Off Your Next $50+ Order. Only purchase the Crossman MAG Fire line if, when you do, the additional clips are available. Barry, read the post again and you'll see that he did NOT purchase the gun. HW 30. I didnt realize how small the .177 pellets are. Work with Pyramyd Air to purchase weapons, they are fabulous with purchase support. There are plenty of others to choose from that are made in other countries! It wont be when youre plinking in your garden though by yourself. I got the Crosman sling and like it alot. Very nice 1.5" groups at both 15 and 20 yards! So far, my F4 seems to like the Crosman Premier Super Match, and the RWS Hobbys. Extremely comfortable stock. Additionally, we are a factory-authorized repair/warranty station for popular brands such as The lack of noise and commotion makes me a better shooter too. That Crosman Fire(f4) is actually not a crappy gun compared to others I don't want to mention and you should be capable of shooting dime to nickle sized groups at 20 yards once you find the right pellet and have enough break in shots and you get used to her. Contact your Walmart point of purchase for any refund requests. Was able to hit a duck. Future Walmart air rifle consumers sale: Crosman rifles come with free Cocoapuffs, pellets sold separately.. In any event, I will be returning it at my first opportunity. I would not change the air rifle itself however maybe have sights on the air rifle itself and like other reviews I would change the scope. It's up to you to research and comply with the laws in your state, county, and city. I like the price, the 10 round magazine function, the accuracy, and the ease of cocking. will receive the option for free ground shipping on items sold & shipped by Pyramyd Air during checkout. The nitron power plant and suppressor makes this a very quiet rifle with lead pellets.The Skelton plastic stock makes the gun light and easy to handle. My scopes elevation turret was stuck and not clicking when I made adjustments. Gives a good burn to the bi-ceps and pec when cocking. If they do and your scope feels secure then it may just need zeroising. I read many reviews and considered the negative points. On entry level springers the first thing that I suspect is the scope. You can order additional magazines(clips) directly from Crosman. I am certainly working at figureing out if the gun is capable of shooting any reasonable pattern so all suggestions are appreciated and will be tried if I can. The FIRE model that arrived here must have had a bad milled barrel assembly etc or whatever. will receive the option for free ground shipping on items sold & shipped by Pyramyd Air during checkout. Although, when I say failure, most of the time I dont actually mean this. I could have bought a better gun but even this cheap one should not be getting worse the more I shoot it. Finally I'd check the barrel lockup/tension. Get a chronograph. I ordered a single shot breakdown to replace it. These work well to stop the rounds but I have drilled holes through two in the center after several hundred rounds. Gravel Agency Toll free in Canada: 866 662-4869 Fax: 418 682-3343 csr@gravelagency.com. The more you shoot, the more building up, the worse the accuracy is. Founded in 2015 and refreshed in 2022, we are the airgun metropolis for community and industry alike. This gun is a lot of fun to shoot, once you get down how to load the mags. Admittedly I am pretty disappointed in that I read on line and watched You Tube articles in whichmost people claim most of the airguns shoot accurately. This rifle has the right name,it burns thru everything I hit,turns it to toast,accurate ,powerful,great gun!! Well you've come to the right place because this category contains owner's manuals and exploded views of parts diagrams. View Service Info, Shop and purchase with confidence knowing that all of our air guns (except airsoft) are protected Unfortunately I have not been able to take this outside to a range to test far distances but have confidence it will do well. Add a better scope. For the money, you can go wrong getting this rifle. Text JOIN to 91256 and get $10 Off Your Next $50+ Order. which evaluates your air gun prior to leaving our warehouse. H&N Copper pellets will NOT fit. The second problem is caused by normal wear of parts that slide against each other during operation. You must be 18 years or older to buy any air gun or air rifle in our store. Accuracy. Consent is not a condition of purchase. Not much else. Msg frequency may vary. The scope quality isn't that good. Sadly none of that makes up for the fact that I can only expect to keep three shots in a 6 inch circle. I'm not very mechanical in ability; but I'm capable of troubleshooting (having grown up with uncles who were dang good mechanics). I had to return my first gun - after ~1000 rounds (roughly 2 weeks). then you may be actually shooting outside of the scopes recommended range. a definite design flaw. or an orange flash hider to avoid the guns being mistaken for firearms. Part number for the .22 calibur is: CMSM2-999. I think the rings are okay that comes with it. They really outdid themselves on this gun. Your name: First thing I would do, and the same I do on expensive rifles: What kind of scope are you using? No matter what you do you will never get enough accuracy out of this break barrel gun to get rid of gophers in your back yard. Its generally user-related and is typically related to how the scope has been sat on the gun or how the gun is being used. Pyramid air needs to make sure all the stuff is in the box before they ship it out. I ended up changing the scope because it has a parabolic mirror affect to me and changed out the trigger adjustment screw for one I ground down to twice as long (it's a 3mm fine thread screw and I had some because I'm into rc helicopters and they are common to that. Msg & data rates may apply. For the price (I recently saw one on sale for $89!) Had been using a Daisy 880 prior to the Crosman. 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