Was she taking steroids for transition? She is from United States. Tenna is an old American West name, a girls name. Maybe someones mind could be enlightened if they opened it instead of walking away. So what she identified as a boy. Teena was an awesome girl! Be true to your heart and true to the truth, and it will never fail you if you have the courage. Talk soon!|. There are millions of tragic stories of cisgender women who have been victims of violent crimes, and weve offered our full measure of empathy towards them for our entire livesat the exclusion of seeing our own tragic stories offered any reciprocal respect. Whatever the case, Lotters last appeal was rejected by the Nebraska Supreme Court in September 2018. Their rights are completely taken away. The way he spoke to Brandon and the terminology he used was disgraceful. Brandon identified as male and wanted surgery for whatever reason maybe even so that more ignorant people would see him as a male. If so they couldve affected her behaviour with the likes of Lotter. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. The quasi-medical needle is a dishonest compromise to render death more palatable to the public (and is not necessarily quick and painless the practical justification.) Based on conversations Teena had with people after the rape, in the car on the way from the hospital and with her sister, emotionally, Teena Brandon was a girl, as opposed to bring a mature woman. NEED RELIABLE HELP! She has a daughter and two sons and at least one grandchild. The coffin is pink and gray marble color, and it is noticeably short. Tisdel, was not included in either film but inadvertently played a role in springing Brandon Teena from jail. me to determine this issue for myself rather than having the correct view imposed on me by the likes of the pc brigade. Lotter said that he first met Teena when she walked up to him at the Oasis Bar and they talked and walked out to her car, got inside and shared a fifth of vodka. To say anything untoward about him will ruin friendships that took many years to develop. 1 Antagonist. Quit wasting tax payers money on these disgusting bags of dung. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. Indeed, CA estimated then that is cost 10 times more than lifers cost. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. Their motive couldve been for multiple reasons multiple reasons why she angered them. I disagree: unless s/hes a whole-lifer or capital case, so may be released, having something to live for is a positive influence in inmates lives, giving the incentive to behave and receive earlier parole, and as being positive for their mental health in a psychologically damaging environment. It costs more to house death row inmates, who are held in segregated sections, in individual cells, with guards delivering everything from daily meals to loo paper. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). STALKED, She has become more striking with maturity. Judges unsympathetic. and socially was worlds apart. Both him and Nissen deserve a bullet to the back of the head, and it would be a kindness. It may look liberal, but is in fact deeply intolerant of naysayers because its origin is in the Left, which lectures, harries, then bullies us on how and what to think (it has to, as sensible people couldnt agree with its nonsense). They should have run that man out of town. She took more religion electives in school than she did art. Unfortunately Teena Brandon was the indigent patient under state care, and all they did, was giver her a handout about trans people. Nissen signed statements & testifies against you, Lotter. Good point low intelligence is not an excuse for cruel behavior. Teena played a different tune for Lana Tisdel during their visit Teena is upset, listless, asking Lana to get her out of jail. Teena stands her up, takes Lisas car, picks up Lana, and drives her up to Lincoln to go drinking at bars. Nissen uses Teenas proper name (Tenna) and claims to now be a Celtic Pagan prison priest. r: I need do nothing of the sort thankfully cos I live in a democracy which allows (just!) Ive read everything you posted here and suspect you are led by the arrogance of being or pretending to be some sort of expert or intimate of Brandon or her family and posting it here to feel important or special. The notion that retardedness being intellectually below average equates to failure to know the difference between right and wrong, seems to me pretty dubious. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. Each time they did so by punching and kicking her in the belly. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "FindLaw's Supreme Court of Nebraska case and opinions", http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Exclusive_John_Lotter_Death_Row_Interview_151736035.html, http://www.classmates.com/people/Lana-Tisdel/7602723794, Gary Bachman obituary, Falls City Journal, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lana_Tisdel&oldid=1120811829, Short description is different from Wikidata, BLP articles lacking sources from March 2015, Articles with unsourced statements from August 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 8 November 2022, at 23:21. I know more about Teena Brandon and what happened to her than you. Ive watched the entire worlds moral compass go south and its by design. He does not mix up Teena Brandon with identity politics and offers the most information. Lotter is from a prominent local family with many relatives and they are invested in saving him. JoAnn received only $17,000, according to an account from writer Charles Laurence that ran in the (Ottawa) Citizens Weekly on April 2, 2000. I hate people talking about Teena as Brandon. WHERE ARE THEIR SECOND CHANCES AT LIFE??? Guessing your wife is with you for carnal gratification definitely not intellectually based upon your intelligent statement.. Refer to people as they prefer, not as you insist they be. Her psychiatrist failed her, which is why there is no clinical literature about her case, her story did not enter clinical annals, the way boy who dreamt of wolves, and other interesting psychiatric patients did. Also, Joan Didian is still alive, but sadly Dominick Dunne passed away in 2005. Your perspective illustrates why intelligent discussion of this issue cant be had with some people, who instead of addressing the argument criticise the person whose argument they dont like or dont understand. Teena was displacing other people staying with Lambert. There is male and female sex period. Nissen has admitted to pulling the trigger at various points and has changed his story to saying lotter didwhen it has suited him to do soie to get a plea deal and avoid the death penalty. For what? BE GONE! John Lotter is a very violent criminal. I know Teena better than you do. Whatever you meant, or meant to state, this is actual meaning of your words. They deposited him in his crib before they fled. From many things. She corrected him and told him that she was Teena. However, i do think its silly that one is on death row and the other has life. I thought he was absolutely vile. Menu. But the water was frozen, and police found the items the next day. Being slow, stupid or whatever is in principle different from moral indifference. To begin, certain segments of the gay male culture are mysogenist in themselves, and someone like Teena did not belong there. Nor does surgery or chemicals change ones essence. The ladies obviously had intellectual rather than carnal gratification in mind when they married them. Well, after all these years since Hilary won the Oscar, I have finally watched this movie. Your email address will not be published. Its the person who REALLY matters, not the accidental characteristics that overtake and make abstract the person in the chattering (or twittering) of liberals. Rest in peace, Brandon, Lisa, and Philip. ), you contradict yourself. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975)[2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). OTHER THAN PRAYER,ARE As far as diagnosing trans people, sex reassignment surgery is the cure of last resort, and only after all of the other issues have been address. To begin with, Teena had a different name for her male self, not the one you see on the internet. The next article you should look at is Carolyn Gages The Inconvenient Truth About Teena Brandon, which gives a good account of Teenas psychiatric symptoms and why she was hospitalized, and has a great reveal in the end. If you look closely, you will see some high school level lit about the medieval knights and Christmas, a photocopied notebook, and another notebook, into which Teena is writing. During the night when he was being hazed in, the entire club turned on him, and spent the night drinking, beating on and berating the newcomer. Lana : Yeah, well, you'd be cranky, too, Mister I'm Going To Memphis Graceland Tennessee, if you were stuck in a town where there's nothing to do but go bumper skiing and chase bats every night of your evil fucking life. Including Lana, Linda Gutierres left four children behind. Its not clear what type of work she does or whether she and her husband are still together. And argument from emotion isnt argument, Ill consider myself non-platformed for unacceptable opinion by you. Your opinions and logic are flawed and you make more of a case that she truly identified as a male than you do believing she was just mentally and emotionally screwed up. Pattern recognition and timing is the key to everything. He was dead when the Morning Shift came to the overnight cell to do the roll call. Its shameful, in my view, to spend such a huge amount of money to keep people imprisoned more expensively only for the purpose of killing them, when there are people living in poverty on the streets Even if it only cost twice as much as for lifers, that would be a good reason on the abolishment side. Thats what Lotter and Nissen believed as well. Teenas real problem was that she witnessed her mother and sister getting hit at around 3 to 5 years of age, and spend the rest of her life running from domestic violence and mysogeny. That, then, reflects a capacity to reason, to scheme and to that degree militates against the notion that they should not be considered culpable. After moving into the home of Lisa Lambert, Teena began dating her friend, 19-year-old Lana Tisdel, and began associating with ex-convicts John L. Lotter (born May 31, 1971) and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen (born October 22, 1971). The Hollywood Reporter LOS ANGELES - Lana Tisdel, the former girlfriend of slain teen-ager Teena Brandon, who was portrayed by Oscar-nominated Chloe Sevigny in the critically acclaimed Fox. But a court later reduced Richardson Countys liability. WHERE ARE THE VICTIMS APPEALS TO THEIR HORRIFIC DEATHS?? At one point in my life I saw about 1100 female cadets go through a police academy, only maybe 1 or 2 women had the positive personal qualities similar to Teena Brandons. I didnt imply that Brandon wasnt a male at all because thats not what I think or wrote. Not to mention, . Sister testified that she lied to Tom Nissen, because Teena asked her to. John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. I also know how Teena Brandon reacted to certain things, and she reacted as a girl. The latter would land him below Nebraskas cutoff of 70 points for death chamber eligibility. And if thats transphobic, so what? Males react differently when subjected to the same. Among other things, Teenas gay male cousins claimed that Teena showed them the part of Lincoln, known as The Loop, where men go cruising for younger men. the fact she/he was abused sexually as a child has a lot to do with this and many other cases. I dont care if theyve found God or are remorseful. None, because the multiple surgeries leave the person in no physical condition to run around in the field in combat boots. CONCERNED Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. Most women who transitioned to men are gay, middle aged, and have been in stable lesbian relationships within the confines of LGBTQ Community for many years. 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