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The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. The well-known Waffenamt Nazi symbol was actually a military acceptance mark, and not a proof mark. Markings: The top of the rifled barrel is marked "Col. LeMat." surrounded by a decorative border, the left is . 1945 = 1. Caliber is .45 and barrel is smoothbore. It has the standard Italian proof marks and date code (AD). H\j0~ The first cipher is the crossed branches surmounted by a crown, and with a cross or star in the three other angles. List of 294 Italian gun makers, Italy suppliers and sellers and distributors Home > Companies Gun & weapons dealers from Italy category Firearms/ Small arms 47 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 1 Shooting accessories/Guns storage/Training 4 Gun Care 1 Gun Parts 2 Machinery/Manufacture 1 Operational equipment/ Survival gear 3 Airguns 5 0
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Large quantity of surplus guns and exotic guns, 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze, BA 312 Semi-Auto Magazine Tube Tactical Shotgun, BA 912 Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto (2 Different Mold). And with these symbols and date codes, we can usually track down who actually made the firearm. Established in 1960 by Knight Giuseppe Pietta, the company first entered the world of gun-making by producing hunting guns, including side-by-side and over and under shotguns. 0000003880 00000 n
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From left to right (upside down) are the test house and black powder proof house stampings, followed by a boxed BM, denoting a . The AE is the proof mark and that is decoded as 1979. 1946 = 2. I hope it will aid those seeking information on their black powder cap & ball reproduction revolvers. This rifle is equipped with an elevation and windage adjustable Creedmoor rear sight and spirit-level tunnel front sight with windage adjustment micrometer screw. The markings are factory inspection and proof markings. Anyone have the latest date codes? The year of trailer
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DGG with backwards C with looks to be 58 after it under the barrel. Thanks, Claude. There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. Included with the marks is a brief history of each of the manufacturers who made or are still making these replicas and the importers/distributors who imported these replicas based on what is currently known about them. My feeling is you have a Walker copy someone made look old. ,!x#B3`Ev Serial Numbers. The Standard mark for French Government arms was a crown above an E., and this crown has a three looped top, with the orb or ball and cross as ornament, and is so distinguished from the cross-crested crown of some St. Etienne weapons. determination. 0000059736 00000 n
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New rule called for marking of gauge along with shell length for smoothbore barrels. Thanks for posting those codesI use them quite often to make sure the correct parts are ordered. Dakin Gun Company Importers of Italian and Spanish Shotguns, c 1960 in San Francisco, California. FABBRICA ARMI F.LLI PIETTA DI PIETTA GIUSEPPE EC. The history of some of these makers and importers are no longer available due to lost records. 0000050991 00000 n
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Year of Manufacture: 1997 (BI Date Code) Caliber: .44 Cal. Italian Date Codes. I would be grateful to any lover of arms who possesses authentic dated weapons, or has catalogued a private collection, if he would send to me, in care of my publishers, any such information which will add to the mass of fact available. trailer
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Italian Gun Manufactures Proof Marks & Dates 41 2 comments Best Add a Comment csaduck 4 yr. ago Many of us have Italian guns that were not quite sure of the date of manufacture, this is a list I got a few years ago (2003) and hope it helps out. below are samples of Proof Marks of different countries. Price: $525.00. trailer
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Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers. August 19, 2012, 03:46 PM #10: Fingers McGee. Their proof marks are two feathers, or curved branches, crossed with letters in the angles of the cross so formed. 0000078152 00000 n
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Markings on gun barrels and other gun components that indicate the level of pressure, calibre and standards that a weapon is fit for in service.. 1968 = XXIV. You can choose to work with makers from Italy directly or contact distributors for a more varied assortment. Many Italian made reproduction cap and ball firearms retail used in the $40 to $150 range. referred to more commonly as "Proof Marks", This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. 0000071997 00000 n
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JavaScript is disabled. The lower right face of the octagonal barrel says, "A.S.M. Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Most specimen marks are of this nature, and it is no unusual thing to find the marks of two different smiths upon the same weapon, one man signing the lock work, the other being the barrel maker. There are a number of SOLD FOR: $1175. 0000009527 00000 n
I know that this info has been posted before, but I appreciate your posting it again. 1858 New Army Revolvers. Make: Pietta. The information was given to me years ago and yes I was wondering myself how they got 30% more powder into the cylinders! All copies and uses are prohibited. 0000069587 00000 n
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The butt is marked "PFT FIE ITALY", etched "5K8 12 80755". Uberti black powder revolvers are exact replicas of their famous predecessors, and are built to perform reliably and safely with modern black powder loads. These small manufacturers started with supplying only parts and then evolved into completed guns. 0000037574 00000 n
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